....NAZIS WERE COMMUNISTS/SOCIALISTS.
And this:
http://webcache. googleusercontent.com/search? q=cache:UfYr2-89m2UJ: atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/ atlas_shrugs/2006/10/walid_ shoebat_t.html+what+nazi+ leader+said+%22We+are+ Communists%22&cd=7&hl=en&ct= clnk&gl=us&client=gmail
Here's part of it:
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About 150 people were present in an auditorium that can hold ~400. Jewelnel began promptly at 8 by making a 5-minute speech about freedom of speech and civil academic discourse. She said the speakers would speak until about 9:15, and the Q&A would go until 10, after which everyone would be expected to vacate the premises. Then the speakers started. The first terrorist, Zakaria Anani, is, I think, a Baptist minister, but he is the son and grandson of imams, and at age 13 he became a militia fighter in the Lebanon war. At age 14 he made his first kill and celebrated. By age 16, he had killed 233 people and felt that his life had become meaningless and would not last long. Then he encountered a Baptist minister and converted. His imam told him that he had 3 days to convert back or be killed. In the next 20 years, there were 18 attempts on his life. For the first 10 years or so he was living in the Christian sector of Beirut, married, had children. One of the attempts injured him and his youngest daughter. After that his church got spooked and sent him away; he and his family moved to Canada. Somewhere along the line someone asked him the reason for the Islamic teaching that Jews have the wrath of God on them. He tried to research it and realized that the Jews were being wronged. But, he said, the western world does not understand.
The second speaker, Hilmar von Campe, also is a devout Christian who now lives in Alabama. He was 7 years old in 1933 when the Nazis came to power. His father was a state official of some sort who was ousted by the Nazis and relocated to an area that is now one of the Czech states. He reminded the audience that the National Socialist German Workers Party (Nazi party) was far left. Josef Goebbels, the chief liar, said We are Communists. Hitler eliminated all other parties, trade unions, youth organizations, etc. All young people had to join the Hitler Youth. Newspapers, radio, and the film industry were controlled by the Nazis. In school, there were jokes about religion and God, and constant rhetoric about how bad the Jews are and how good the Germans are. On 9/1/39, Hitler reported that the Poles had invaded Germany and that Germany had to defend itself. Although he and his circle hated the Nazis, all felt that they had to defend Germany first and deal with the Nazis second. He said that many people were unaware of the Holocaust, but that everyone was aware of the discrimination against and unhuman treatment of Jews and all kept silent, including the churches. He said he became a liar too. He also said that in 1972, the KGB and Andropov adopted a policy of turning the entire Islamic world against Israel and the United States. During Q"&A, he cited as his source a book, Red Horizons, by a defecting Rumanian general.
Walid Shoebat pursued that theme. His father was Palestinian, his mother an American who naively went to the Middle East to visit her husband's family and was trapped there with her children for 35 years. He said that Muslims fought on the Nazi side in World War II and murdered the Jews of Bosnia. He said that he was educated to believe that Jesus was a Palestinian revolutionary who came to liberate Palestinians from Zionist oppressors, that Jews spread Mad Cow disease, cause tsunamis, etc. He translated Jihad as Mein Kampf. He is a convert to Christianity. He also said during the question period that when Muslims are at least 20% of a population, they are obliged to seize state power. He also said that Muslims do not believe in the separation of church and state.
The question period was better than I expected. The questioners were somewhat critical but they did not rant. The answers were generally to the point, despite some language problems. The speakers were fairly critical of Jews and others who think appeasement can bring peace. Walid pointed out that the word hudna, usually translated as truce or ceasefire, actually means strategically taking time off from fighting to regroup and obtain concessions. Muslims feel no obligation to tell the truth to non-Muslims. When criticized for hate speech, they responded that they were criticizing Islam, not Muslims individually. Walid had said at one point that Muslims should have a right to convert to Christianity, that Jews should have a right not to convert to Christianity, etc. A couple of questioners interpreted him as saying that Muslims should convert to Christianity. He straightened that out. Some questioners asserted that moderate Muslims do not believe all those bad things. Anani said, if you think your imam is moderate, ask him what would happen if his son converted to Christianity."
And this:
Best one yet on the commie quote: http://patriotsandliberty.com/ ?p=6921
A truly magnificent excerpt:
Socialist philosophy is rooted in the concepts of Jean-Jacques Rousseau, a French political philosopher in the 18th century: that man is good but exposed to the corruption of society, and that it is the corruption of the political and social environment that is responsible for the evil in society. Therefore, justification for the socialists’ policies is the pretense that they are out for justice and want to change the social and political structures to free mankind. That, of course, is a lie because evil is within every person, and their political praxis is reduced to the brutal fight for power by all means, playing up, lying to and enlisting the underdog. Only the means are different for the various socialist branches, but the principle is the same for all: the end justifies the means. Joseph Goebbels, propaganda minister of Hitler, is quoted in Germany with the statement “… it is not for nothing that we have chosen the name National Socialist German Workers Party (NSDAP), because at heart we are Communists.” Briefing his generals before the invasion of the Soviet Union in June of 1941, Hitler told them that he wanted to bring them “real socialism.” His declared intention was to destroy the Christian churches after victory.
American socialists are closer to Adolf Hitler than to their Founding Fathers and our Constitution. Remember, the Holocaust is only the consequence of a godless concept of the liars, and so is the philosophy of these socialists, which leads to the mass-murder of abortion. Four times as many unborn human beings have been killed in abortions than people in Nazi camps, among them 6 million Jews and millions of others. I might add those millions who were killed mainly in the socialist Soviet concentration camps, in one of which my father also perished. I have not heard Gorbachev or Putin apologize to anybody for Soviet atrocities.
Finally, it is also important to realize that Islamic terrorism is only a religious subdivision in the battle for global power. The military war has to be fought, as it is being done, but the need for an ideological/moral answer to the vacuum created has to be recognized. Terrorism is based on hatred and class (say religious) warfare and allows murder for power, like Marxist/Communist and National Socialism. The Soviet politburo is responsible for the creation of many of the Middle East intelligence services and terrorist organizations. It also needs to be stated that unchanged Soviet Russia uses military strength for reasons of blackmail but advances its agenda through subversion.
Is there a way out of the mess? Yes there is. God is still waiting for America to change and apply His commandments to all sections of society. That implies that Congress has to make it impossible for socialist judges to change the Constitution to their very limited godless concepts. American society can and should work out solutions, which are valid for the whole of the world. God, not vague religious concepts, is the answer to godlessness. America needs a moral rebirth.
And this:
http://webcache.
Here's part of it:
"
About 150 people were present in an auditorium that can hold ~400. Jewelnel began promptly at 8 by making a 5-minute speech about freedom of speech and civil academic discourse. She said the speakers would speak until about 9:15, and the Q&A would go until 10, after which everyone would be expected to vacate the premises. Then the speakers started. The first terrorist, Zakaria Anani, is, I think, a Baptist minister, but he is the son and grandson of imams, and at age 13 he became a militia fighter in the Lebanon war. At age 14 he made his first kill and celebrated. By age 16, he had killed 233 people and felt that his life had become meaningless and would not last long. Then he encountered a Baptist minister and converted. His imam told him that he had 3 days to convert back or be killed. In the next 20 years, there were 18 attempts on his life. For the first 10 years or so he was living in the Christian sector of Beirut, married, had children. One of the attempts injured him and his youngest daughter. After that his church got spooked and sent him away; he and his family moved to Canada. Somewhere along the line someone asked him the reason for the Islamic teaching that Jews have the wrath of God on them. He tried to research it and realized that the Jews were being wronged. But, he said, the western world does not understand.
The second speaker, Hilmar von Campe, also is a devout Christian who now lives in Alabama. He was 7 years old in 1933 when the Nazis came to power. His father was a state official of some sort who was ousted by the Nazis and relocated to an area that is now one of the Czech states. He reminded the audience that the National Socialist German Workers Party (Nazi party) was far left. Josef Goebbels, the chief liar, said We are Communists. Hitler eliminated all other parties, trade unions, youth organizations, etc. All young people had to join the Hitler Youth. Newspapers, radio, and the film industry were controlled by the Nazis. In school, there were jokes about religion and God, and constant rhetoric about how bad the Jews are and how good the Germans are. On 9/1/39, Hitler reported that the Poles had invaded Germany and that Germany had to defend itself. Although he and his circle hated the Nazis, all felt that they had to defend Germany first and deal with the Nazis second. He said that many people were unaware of the Holocaust, but that everyone was aware of the discrimination against and unhuman treatment of Jews and all kept silent, including the churches. He said he became a liar too. He also said that in 1972, the KGB and Andropov adopted a policy of turning the entire Islamic world against Israel and the United States. During Q"&A, he cited as his source a book, Red Horizons, by a defecting Rumanian general.
Walid Shoebat pursued that theme. His father was Palestinian, his mother an American who naively went to the Middle East to visit her husband's family and was trapped there with her children for 35 years. He said that Muslims fought on the Nazi side in World War II and murdered the Jews of Bosnia. He said that he was educated to believe that Jesus was a Palestinian revolutionary who came to liberate Palestinians from Zionist oppressors, that Jews spread Mad Cow disease, cause tsunamis, etc. He translated Jihad as Mein Kampf. He is a convert to Christianity. He also said during the question period that when Muslims are at least 20% of a population, they are obliged to seize state power. He also said that Muslims do not believe in the separation of church and state.
The question period was better than I expected. The questioners were somewhat critical but they did not rant. The answers were generally to the point, despite some language problems. The speakers were fairly critical of Jews and others who think appeasement can bring peace. Walid pointed out that the word hudna, usually translated as truce or ceasefire, actually means strategically taking time off from fighting to regroup and obtain concessions. Muslims feel no obligation to tell the truth to non-Muslims. When criticized for hate speech, they responded that they were criticizing Islam, not Muslims individually. Walid had said at one point that Muslims should have a right to convert to Christianity, that Jews should have a right not to convert to Christianity, etc. A couple of questioners interpreted him as saying that Muslims should convert to Christianity. He straightened that out. Some questioners asserted that moderate Muslims do not believe all those bad things. Anani said, if you think your imam is moderate, ask him what would happen if his son converted to Christianity."
And this:
Best one yet on the commie quote: http://patriotsandliberty.com/
A truly magnificent excerpt:
Socialist philosophy is rooted in the concepts of Jean-Jacques Rousseau, a French political philosopher in the 18th century: that man is good but exposed to the corruption of society, and that it is the corruption of the political and social environment that is responsible for the evil in society. Therefore, justification for the socialists’ policies is the pretense that they are out for justice and want to change the social and political structures to free mankind. That, of course, is a lie because evil is within every person, and their political praxis is reduced to the brutal fight for power by all means, playing up, lying to and enlisting the underdog. Only the means are different for the various socialist branches, but the principle is the same for all: the end justifies the means. Joseph Goebbels, propaganda minister of Hitler, is quoted in Germany with the statement “… it is not for nothing that we have chosen the name National Socialist German Workers Party (NSDAP), because at heart we are Communists.” Briefing his generals before the invasion of the Soviet Union in June of 1941, Hitler told them that he wanted to bring them “real socialism.” His declared intention was to destroy the Christian churches after victory.
American socialists are closer to Adolf Hitler than to their Founding Fathers and our Constitution. Remember, the Holocaust is only the consequence of a godless concept of the liars, and so is the philosophy of these socialists, which leads to the mass-murder of abortion. Four times as many unborn human beings have been killed in abortions than people in Nazi camps, among them 6 million Jews and millions of others. I might add those millions who were killed mainly in the socialist Soviet concentration camps, in one of which my father also perished. I have not heard Gorbachev or Putin apologize to anybody for Soviet atrocities.
Finally, it is also important to realize that Islamic terrorism is only a religious subdivision in the battle for global power. The military war has to be fought, as it is being done, but the need for an ideological/moral answer to the vacuum created has to be recognized. Terrorism is based on hatred and class (say religious) warfare and allows murder for power, like Marxist/Communist and National Socialism. The Soviet politburo is responsible for the creation of many of the Middle East intelligence services and terrorist organizations. It also needs to be stated that unchanged Soviet Russia uses military strength for reasons of blackmail but advances its agenda through subversion.
Is there a way out of the mess? Yes there is. God is still waiting for America to change and apply His commandments to all sections of society. That implies that Congress has to make it impossible for socialist judges to change the Constitution to their very limited godless concepts. American society can and should work out solutions, which are valid for the whole of the world. God, not vague religious concepts, is the answer to godlessness. America needs a moral rebirth.
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